M8, psych students are some of the most naive idiots you can imagine (on average, obviously).
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why are you putting Myers–Briggs and astrology on the same level?
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In fairness to @failed_buddhist, you don't need to see them as being at the same level.
That said, I hardly think MBTI is valid as such - and I say that as someone who used to be able to ascertain someone's MBTI type with very high probability (~80% agreement with test results.)
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It's a very good framing/storytelling device, but otherwise it has little going for it that Big Five doesn't do better and more reliably.
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Invalid for the sorts of things it's usually claimed to matter for (e.g. job choice, motivational structure...)
Big Five is different, I agree.
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Go ahead, find reliable behavioural correlates of MBTI types. It's extremely difficult, but if you can find something replicable I'll grant you that.
Most personality typologies suffer from this lack of clear relationship with behaviour, yet they make assertions about it...
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Sogyal took away my faith that high lamas are bodhisattvas.
Please don't take my MBTI away. It's been a rough year.
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LOL
I'll grant you this: MBTI does say that INTPs are prone to romantic belief in dodgy pet theories.
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I won't go to the other extreme and claim that MBTI is snake oil - I'm just saying it has a very poor structural relationship with the things it wants to predict.
Doesn't make it *useless*.
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don’t conflate type theory as a whole with the MBTI, a psychometric test. the latter is only a doorstep to the former.
it’s nothing to do with behavior either, it deals with cognitive temperament/orientation directly
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Jung heavily criticized Freud’s theories as trying to essentially boil human behavior and personality down to affect alone, so his theory makes no comparable pretense
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