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indeed. Of course, probably there's a lot of insight in Jung, and probably a fair bit of it is BS or specific to him.

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still prefer him to Freud, though Freud got more usefully right than we like to admit any more.

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He may be slightly responsible for ruining his own reputation, in that respect. Guy was an egomaniac who couldn't handle being surpassed by Jung.

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(Nor to bear criticism from anyone else - the worse the criticism of his worst ideas became, the more obtuse he became in sticking to them.)

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All of which is a shame, because I completely agree that he had a lot of good ideas - just not much of a sense of how to preserve their memory.

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However, happy to say this discussion has reminded me that I need to read more about the neo-freudians. Particularly, the hilariously named Karen Horney. Many of her ideas (e.g. concerning narcissism) have held up remarkably well.

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