You can start with me. I believe in civil liberties.
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The problem is not on the issue of stopping nazis, but who gets to decide what is or isn't a nazi.
You think the US govt. is mature for that?
We don't even have that kind of legislation in Norway. It's easy as hell to abuse.
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It's easy to forget the trajectory here too. Twitter bans Milo, people rejoice.
Concluding that people are okay with bans, they persist in banning. Weeks later, they are banning more people - for talking back to nazis.
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I mean, this isn't some fictional example. This happened.
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Yes, but we're not talking about Antifa, here. We're talking about the State. There are Reasons you don't cede this power fully to the state. Nazism is one of them.
By all means, punch up & counterdemonstrate Nazis. I'll cheer.
But the US is already fascistic enough.
I think Milo deserved that ban and far, far worse, but it doesn't change what kind of precedent it said.
In Norway, our Nazi party was allowed to draw up a list for parliament. They got 500 or so votes, most of them from the weird-ass racist heartland in ONE county.
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Nazis are irrelevant, stupid idiots who can't draw up a political plan to save their lives. Meanwhile, the actual state is allowed to increase their various fascistic "restrictions" on civil liberties every day.
This isn't a cut and dried issue.