Communist: "I CAN SPELL BOURGEOISIE. CAN YOU? I DIDN'T THINK SO. QED."
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Centrist: "These guys are all lunatic cultists hooked on murderous ideologies."
*continues shilling for repeatedly-falsified & demonstrably failing neoliberal policy*
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Politics is so fundamentally vapid & devoid of internal feedback mechanisms it's beyond hope, at least until the next revolution.
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Disclaimer: my own political views are prominently left-wing, but on certain points I despise leftist totalitarianism & willful ignorance.
Boo-fucking-hoo.
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I still can't get my head around the idea that the principle description of most political positions is its position on a single axis from Left to Right. If there were maybe ten axes we might have something a bit more revealing.
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You expect primates to come up with sophisticated classification systems totally at odds with the instincts they culturally can't admit to having?
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Lol! Of course I wouldn't *expect* it, but it would be great to hear conversations that went based around what sort of Left people are defending themselves from being accused of being.
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I've long since lost hope for that. We have those sorts of discussions in Norway. I have never, ever, seen them carried out abroad.
And the political climate in Norway is also deteriorating.
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Really? That's a shame. It seems to be one of those places seen as a beacon of hope for people who know literally nothing about the political situation there.
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Yeah, well, it's still probably a better and safer place to live than almost any other place on the planet for the not-disgustingly-rich, assuming you don't mind the cold and you don't live in Oslo.
That's not the same as saying it's anywhere close to utopia.
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In spite of everything, I think Britain isn't a terrible place from that point of view, either, for all but a (growing) minority… it could be pretty lovely for everyone, but a lot of people don't want it to be (and I don't just mean that they're not willing to pay the price).
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I speculate that the sheer spitefulness of Anglo culture is an atavism from your imperial days. Confer American attitudes towards the wider world and the resemblance is uncanny.
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As to the political situation, the welfare state is now so old almost nobody remembers how it was created in the first place.
The Left wants more and more (actual) entitlements, but embedded in SJW "causes" and ineffectual bureaucracy. The Right are neoliberal shitbags as ever.