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The specifics of individual situations matter, and while there are red lines like "don't rape", there are also rules that should be guidelines. Even within harmful situations there are gradations. Weinstein and CK Louis both did bad things. One is much worse.

Ian Welsh

@iwelsh

Nov 20, 2017

I'm also noticing a desire to effectively increase the age of ability to make consent to 30 or so. Fuck that, as someone who remembers being a teenager. Your milk fed veal kids never learned to make any judgment calls because you never let them.

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We have no ability to talk reasonably about teenagers' sexuality. And I count myself in that number.

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Yup. And we keep making the effective age of majority later and later. I see a lot of people arguing for 25, and I understand why, but, no, fuck off.

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and even some pushing for around 30

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Considering how few adults are adults I take the point, but that's no way to run a society.

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To be fair, we've infantalized our teenagers, so that they do their real growing up in their twenties that would have been done in their teens in the past (even fairly recent past, 70s/80s)

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I wonder. That seems a bit too facile. They are adapted to very different circumstances.

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No, I don't think so. Helicopter parenting is very real. There are some economic reasons for it, but it still infantalizes them. Everyone is adapted to how they grew up, that doesn't mean the adaptation can't have maladaptive aspects.