Ok, new topic "Hitler vs. Stalin: Who Killed More?" totalitarian coup-counting maybe, tragic just the same. nybooks.com/articles/2011/
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Hitler wins I guess:"…number of civilians killed by the Soviets, however, is considerably less than we had believed" nybooks.com/articles/2011/
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Seems 'considerably less' here means a few million less than Hitler, basically around 8 million including Holodomor. nybooks.com/articles/2011/
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Wikipedia gives a higher estimate for Holodomor, 7 to 10 million, upping killed-by-Stalin figure to ~12 million. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
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Given Germany invaded USSR, military deaths should be counted too, at least those inflicted on USSR, say ~10 million en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_F
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Apparently people don't realize the Stalinist regime outlived the Third Reich by a considerable amount of years. Nazi body count far higher.
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Would have to do some math, but I'm fairly sure USSR pop. also vastly exceeded that of Nazi conquests.
Stalin was evil, but it isn't close.
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I certainly agree 'it isn't even close' but as to what historically happened being not-so-evil-as-Hitler doesn't seem like reason to rejoice
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Absolutely, but scale matters more than we perceive.
C.f. centrists equivocating antifa and neo-nazis. It's the same style of argument.
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Dimly recalling RBF noting any course is a series of corrections, zig-zagging. Hopefully something to offend everyone in my thread coming up