@mwiikยทAug 13, 2017Ok, new topic "Hitler vs. Stalin: Who Killed More?" totalitarian coup-counting maybe, tragic just the same. http://nybooks.com/articles/2011/03/10/hitler-vs-stalin-who-killed-more/โฆ11
@mwiikยทAug 13, 2017Replying to @mwiikHitler wins I guess:"โฆnumber of civilians killed by the Soviets, however, is considerably less than we had believed" http://nybooks.com/articles/2011/03/10/hitler-vs-stalin-who-killed-more/โฆ1
@mwiikยทAug 13, 2017Replying to @mwiikSeems 'considerably less' here means a few million less than Hitler, basically around 8 million including Holodomor. http://nybooks.com/articles/2011/03/10/hitler-vs-stalin-who-killed-more/โฆ1
@mwiikยทAug 13, 2017Replying to @mwiikWikipedia gives a higher estimate for Holodomor, 7 to 10 million, upping killed-by-Stalin figure to ~12 million. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor1
@mwiikยทAug 13, 2017Replying to @mwiikIn our charnel house sweepstakes the previous suggests Hitler & Stalin neck-&-neck at ~12 million each in terms of Russia/Ukraine civilians.1
@mwiikยทAug 13, 2017Replying to @mwiikGiven Germany invaded USSR, military deaths should be counted too, at least those inflicted on USSR, say ~10 million https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Front_(World_War_II)โฆ1
@mwiikยทAug 13, 2017Replying to @mwiikIn an alternate timeline USSR might have invaded Germany first, though given Nazi aggression throughout Europe etc, presumably justifiable.3
Cinder@TriquetreaยทAug 13, 2017Replying to @mwiikApparently people don't realize the Stalinist regime outlived the Third Reich by a considerable amount of years. Nazi body count far higher.2
Cinder@TriquetreaReplying to @Triquetrea and @mwiikWould have to do some math, but I'm fairly sure USSR pop. also vastly exceeded that of Nazi conquests. Stalin was evil, but it isn't close.6:00 PM ยท Aug 13, 2017ยทTwitter for Android
@mwiikยทAug 13, 2017Replying to @TriquetreaI certainly agree 'it isn't even close' but as to what historically happened being not-so-evil-as-Hitler doesn't seem like reason to rejoice1
Cinder@TriquetreaยทAug 13, 2017Replying to @mwiikAbsolutely, but scale matters more than we perceive. C.f. centrists equivocating antifa and neo-nazis. It's the same style of argument.1