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Jason Snyder
@cognazor
Replying to
@chagmed
To some degree, yes. Totally, no. A good example of "to some degree" are mindfulness techniques to improve impulse control. E.g., to observe "there is anger manifested as sensations in the body" instead of "I am angry and that person shouldn't have done that to me and and..."
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Jason Snyder
@cognazor
Replying to
@cognazor
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@chagmed
But to his point, obtaining some degree of impulse awareness and control may cause someone to overestimate their understanding of impulses more deeply, causing them to become even more enslaved by them while masquerading as an enlightened being
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Dan DeRobertis 💋
@chagmed
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@cognazor
I used to believe that mindfulness and introspection were gates to self-understanding. I now consider such a stance presumptuous and naïve. I can double-check the weight of a steak. How do I double-check my introspections?
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Jason Snyder
@cognazor
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@chagmed
I think there is a difference between being embedded in certain mind states, such that it is completely constituent of awareness and immediately drives behavior, vs. having enough spaciousness that the state is observed more as an object of awareness with some freedom to respond
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Jason Snyder
@cognazor
Replying to
@chagmed
Not the actual wheels, I think we would agree that those are unconscious. More like, the final product as manifested in impulses and desires that arise in conscious awareness. Mindfulness can create a buffer between those and behavioral output
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Dan DeRobertis 💋
@chagmed
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@cognazor
The Mind is Flat model that has garnered much interest recently suggests that there is no unconscious. To you knowledge, has neuroscience demonstrated the existence of an unconscious?
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