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This is _precisely_ equal to saying 'Every person in this country has a right to all the labor & resources of everybody else, to be expropriated through the coercive power of the state, & redistributed as the state sees fit'. But I guess Bernie's version sounds better.

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Bernie Sanders

@BernieSanders

Sep 2, 2019

Every person in this country must have the right to: -A decent job and a living wage -Quality health care -A complete education -Affordable housing -A clean environment -A secure retirement It's time for a 21st Century Economic Bill of Rights.

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Visa’s Vexing Vacillations

@visakanv

Sep 4, 2019

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Politics aside, this is such a grotesque misuse of the word “precisely”. Nowhere does the quoted tweet say “all”

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Unless you'd have to have access to all of it to be able to ensure that everyone had what was promised which *seems* plausible to me? Like for *every* single person to have it I think you'd have to have access to all resources and the ability to distribute them all.

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This is very much not the case in Norway, which meets every point on Bernie's list pretty well. These talking points aren't just wrong - they're completely nuts. Bernie is a moderate, not a tankie.

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Is it true that *everyone* is Norway has this? Is the homelessness tax literally 0? Isn't it just from their oil revenues?

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It's not literally everyone. But close. No system has perfect throughput. The welfare state is actually dysfunctional, people have trouble w/benefits etc. It's the functional tripartism that's the key. Even low-paid jobs are plenty to survive and have fun, savings, holidays...

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The economy has been bending neoliberal for a decade or more, with predictably disastrous results, but it's still much healthier than most anywhere. Oil helps, but the US could have this level of prosperity today, much like it did in the 50s. These are all policy choices.

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Right - I don't know enough to disagree with any of this. I just meant that if Bernie literally meant 'every' and not just as a rallying call then visa's point of it being a bad use of precisely isn't that good (because it does entail what primalpoly says it does).

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What? basic logic and first principles is all you need here. There is no reason why you need access to *all* available resources in order to provide the population with a subset of it

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