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Rather, it seems like certain core practices, if pursued long enough, naturally scaffold into further steps. Like there is an instinct, here, or a consistent set of outcomes from the core conditioning.

Cinder

@Triquetrea

Aug 30, 2019

Does this tend to happen in other disciplines? I'm not sure I'm good enough at anything else to evaluate that.

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I've found this with meditation, dreaming and magick. On several occasions I've put myself through prescribed paths only to find the teachings had already come to me intuitively.

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Well magick and dreaming are obvious on account of being mostly about awareness, intent and symbolism! But a lot of things are a lot less fluid than that and seem to yield similar results.

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True, but there are many who would tell you advancement was impossible without formal training, even in such subjective disciplines.

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@Triquetrea

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@c_r_dudley

Was told the same thing about meditation, keep moving forward with minimal guidance though. Which is not to say guides and gurus aren't useful, or force multipliers. But if it were impossible, how could anyone ever become a master?

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At some point you have to admit that your founding story is either pure mythology, or that someone, at some point, did it themselves - and correctly! Which is not to say that this isn't risky, but that's a very different argument...

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Across near enough every discipline people who are sufficiently influential become deified, even if they consistently make the point that they're just coming up with ideas and that people should think for themselves. Some people just go with it.

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