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As a friend pointed out, a lot of American Buddhists seem to reject the 3rd and 4th noble truths. I don't see how you can do that and still call yourself a Buddhist.

Ian Welsh

@iwelsh

Jul 31, 2019

more and more I read these folks, and I can only think "well, you've got something, and I'm not denying you're an advanced meditator. But this doesn't seem to have anything to do with the Buddha's teachings."

Ian Welsh

@iwelsh

Jul 31, 2019

Now, of course, nothing wrong with rejecting the Buddha's teachings. My first real teacher did and does. But it's not OK to say "I'm a Buddhist and there is no escape from suffering."

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Eh, it's not Buddhism without the 4 noble truths as far as I can see. Tantric or not.

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You say that, but it's not like the Christians can figure out how many ways YHWH is supposed to be partitioned, either.

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Christ didn't leave a clear 4 statement "this is my religion." As for the bible, it's a fucking mess, no one can figure out a damn thing from it if they take it all seriously.

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True, but even the 10 commandments aren't interpreted the same...

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The problem is welding Judaism to the New Testament, and Christ's teaching to the crap that other people put into the New Testament. It's not, imo, doable, though people sure try. Buddha's basic teachings are simple, the problem is the loss of original techniques.

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but if you aren't ending suffering by ending desire, you aren't doing Buddhism as the Buddha taught it. I don't see a way around that.

Cinder

@Triquetrea

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@iwelsh

This seems correct. OG Buddhism is renunciate, that's pretty clear. But that is also putting a twist on "Buddhism" in the common vernacular understanding.

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