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Hm. Shapiro is a smarmy chickenhawk fascist. He isn't a gateway to anything; he's a dumpster. Joe Rogan is a card-carrying libertarian. His connections reflect that. Of course he's partly right-wing, but you point the arrow the other way and he's two degrees from communist...
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As someone who goes on podcasts from time to time, I can tell you I'm very careful about who I talk to and whose platforms I directly and indirectly promote. When people who aren't Nazis stop doing podcasts with people who hang with Nazis, I reckon we'll be on the right track.