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Serving fellow man? By creating a sixth mass extinction and runaway climate change? There are two major correlates with civilisational collapse: inequality and environmental degradation. Yeah. Exactly. Fuck capitalism. It's an existential risk to humanity.

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There is some truth to it.

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Capitalism is the telos of exploitation, looting, plundering, and enslavement. It built colonial and neocolonial empires. The slave trade. Mass ecocide driving the planet to ruin. All so a few people could own the means of production and steal everyone's surplus labour value.

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So you are saying Alexander the Great, Ghengis Khan, etc were capitalists? Because I don't know think he is saying that. Are you saying feudalism is superior?

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No, I'm saying capitalism pillaged and plundered and exploited *as well* as systems before it did. He's saying it transcended those things. It didn't. It just made them global, industrialised, more efficient, and existentially threatening.

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I never get what people are doing when they rail against capitalism. I never understand their definition nor there solution. " I woke up with a sore neck! $@&#! Capitalism!

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Here is a question: If we kill the ability to accumulate vast, billionaire fortunes, clearly there will be less inequality - given the tremendous work those shits put into hoarding. But would our species-level rapacity stop? Would overconsumption halt? War? My feeling is no.

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If anything, capitalism grew *from* those structures & processes... it's a dysfunctional c&c system, but it is just that - it isn't a root cause. If you take your point about feudalism, capitalism is more like a dysfunctional sovereign than a system unto itself, I think.

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All of these polluting megacorps, exploitative billionaires and so on are bootstrapped on top of industrial technologies that lack any historical precedent, unless you're a biblical literalist or something. There is no telling how bad we could make alternative control systems.

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I think there are two roots to this problem that capitalism did not create, and the end of capitalism will not solve (in and of itself): - the human organism is massively maladapted for the environment we engineered, and our hegemony is an ecological risk unto itself - pollution

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So my feeling is, until we get really serious about how to solve a 10 billion plus population boom, or our ludicrous destructive capabilities vs. our very limited species-level coordination, or the staggering inefficiency of our tech, capitalism remains an academic issue.

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I have lots of critiques of mass society in general. I think we we're better off as hunter gathereres living in small bands. But this isn't my political goal.