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Pretty much 100% convinced that the leftist utopias in the mainstream are as dumb as the ones on the right, and I say that while leaning mostly left.
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If your standard is Scandinavia, are you talking about domestically benevolent(ish) petrostates or about buying up industry in unregulated countries? You are not going to get this standard of living anywhere else without extracting wealth and resources. Not by that path.
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Social democracy and democratic socialism both hinge on "growth as usual, just give more money to regular people". Yes, it's not *as* bad as neoliberalism, and will improve living standards, but it will not lead to global prosperity, or do much to prevent death-by-growth.
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The idea of fighting to replace the stupid, abusive elites with marginally less stupid, a lot less abusive elites is good, but hardly sufficient. We are solving very local problems, here. And not in a way that scales.
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I'll always sympathize more with feeding the poor than with disgusting oligarchs, but you gotta actually outdo them at the drawing board, don't you?
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The cavalcade of people attacking e.g. Elon Musk for his flawed utopias and Hughesesque antics can't come up with a single idea that isn't Old Modernist BS. The same people make fun of his (lack of) philosophical or political grounding. But then why are their ideas even worse?
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Oh well. I probably shouldn't waste my time shouting in the wilderness about this. Gonna go have myself a good think about this.
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