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Cinder
@Triquetrea
Yeah, I think that's a point frequently missed by Very Smart leftier types trying to argue with nativists. The point isn't to have a consistent ideology, and the beliefs/bugbears are mostly irrelevant. The point is to maintain your local competitive advantage.
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Cinder
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@visakanv
I tend to get extremely leery about "white privilege" debates: 1: "white" is a nativist-racist construct with no good basis, so it's basically carrying water. 2: I would be trilingual & bicultural from birth if not for cultural destruction my grandparents have living memory of.
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Cinder
@Triquetrea
It still does. Sami rights were still ridiculed until the 80s, but the current govt. is trying to roll back Sami rights. Pretty successfully, since they are deferred from parliament. Liberalism? After the oil boom. Socially conservative worker solidarity was norm post-WW2.
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Cinder
@Triquetrea
It's almost exactly the same in contemporary Norway. Pre-80s was preachy, conservative "educating" of Sami people. But those were different times in more ways. Now, it's people who think native rights are "anticompetitive" who are the worst - i.e. libertarians and neolibs.
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The last time I was in Norway, I had a rare case of agetting angry at my grandmother on the Norwegian side (who is generally a very excellent person) for asserting Palestinians are "not angels". Fairly sure she picked this up in church. Similar attitudes towards Sami there.
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Cinder
@Triquetrea
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So on one hand, you have the old school: "Well sure there is violent, tyrannical oppression, but have you noticed those Sami people are really often alcoholics?" (seeing as they had no real drinking culture, something Norwegian merchants and officials were keen to exploit).
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