But this feels like a highly specific local norm, product of how regressively traditionalist old people are around here.
Divorce rates being lower is mostly a function of draconian legal requirements, IMO.
Don't see too much of this attitude in (conventionally) western Europe.
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the interesting thing here is that 'local norms' are themselves kind of a related thing to this discussion? in the economy-geography sense. people move to big/foreign cities to leave oppressive families, etc
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Yeah. The Polish diaspora dwarfs the local population.
Pretty sure this is a trend in countries that suck, when there aren't sufficient barriers to emigrating.
I suspect English racism towards Poles, which is very new, is just the same as e.g. old US racism vs. 'talians/Irish.
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Yeah, I think that's a point frequently missed by Very Smart leftier types trying to argue with nativists.
The point isn't to have a consistent ideology, and the beliefs/bugbears are mostly irrelevant. The point is to maintain your local competitive advantage.
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I tend to get extremely leery about "white privilege" debates:
1: "white" is a nativist-racist construct with no good basis, so it's basically carrying water.
2: I would be trilingual & bicultural from birth if not for cultural destruction my grandparents have living memory of.
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It still does. Sami rights were still ridiculed until the 80s, but the current govt. is trying to roll back Sami rights. Pretty successfully, since they are deferred from parliament.
Liberalism? After the oil boom. Socially conservative worker solidarity was norm post-WW2.
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It's almost exactly the same in contemporary Norway.
Pre-80s was preachy, conservative "educating" of Sami people. But those were different times in more ways.
Now, it's people who think native rights are "anticompetitive" who are the worst - i.e. libertarians and neolibs.
The last time I was in Norway, I had a rare case of agetting angry at my grandmother on the Norwegian side (who is generally a very excellent person) for asserting Palestinians are "not angels".
Fairly sure she picked this up in church. Similar attitudes towards Sami there.
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