But this feels like a highly specific local norm, product of how regressively traditionalist old people are around here.
Divorce rates being lower is mostly a function of draconian legal requirements, IMO.
Don't see too much of this attitude in (conventionally) western Europe.
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the interesting thing here is that 'local norms' are themselves kind of a related thing to this discussion? in the economy-geography sense. people move to big/foreign cities to leave oppressive families, etc
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Yeah. The Polish diaspora dwarfs the local population.
Pretty sure this is a trend in countries that suck, when there aren't sufficient barriers to emigrating.
I suspect English racism towards Poles, which is very new, is just the same as e.g. old US racism vs. 'talians/Irish.
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Yeah, I think that's a point frequently missed by Very Smart leftier types trying to argue with nativists.
The point isn't to have a consistent ideology, and the beliefs/bugbears are mostly irrelevant. The point is to maintain your local competitive advantage.
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I tend to get extremely leery about "white privilege" debates:
1: "white" is a nativist-racist construct with no good basis, so it's basically carrying water.
2: I would be trilingual & bicultural from birth if not for cultural destruction my grandparents have living memory of.
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It still does. Sami rights were still ridiculed until the 80s, but the current govt. is trying to roll back Sami rights. Pretty successfully, since they are deferred from parliament.
Liberalism? After the oil boom. Socially conservative worker solidarity was norm post-WW2.
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If you ask certain bigoted Norwegians, I am actually biracial, and this is Bad in their view. Sami people are considered a parasite class, because they were eventually allowed some native rights after Norway appropriated all their land.
It's a bit laughable how these things go.
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I don't know that I will ever stop being nauseated by avowed anti-racists informing me that "my" people appropriated "their" culture, lands etc.
These distinctions don't exist in reality. I am as much Norwegian as I am Sami. More, since Sami culture is dying out. And yet...
... and yet, my family (OK, one side of it) has experienced as much cultural appropriation, destruction and bigotry as any of theirs, in living memory.
All the while still being "white", and, for a large part, also racist, this being fairly normal in the Norwegian countryside.