You being glib, m8?
If there isn't a sense of self, how do you locate it?
You just locate something that feels like it's in the center.
Typically, that means you've shifted your vantage to something that is now "the center", until you try to look at it and shift it again...
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Not existing as a discreet experiential object ≠ not having the illusion of such floating around in your general perception of the world
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For sure, that is kind of what I am getting at with more subtle senses of the self.
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See, I'd argue at this point you're more talking about a world model.
I've had full disintegration of the sense of self. Nothing there, anywhere. Was pretty shocking.
Still, I have a tendency to get absorbed in "selfing". It isn't the same thing. Is certainly not enlightenment.
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And for the habit of perceiving things that way to form, if it ever does. I don't go around persistently feeling like that.
When I do, it's starkly different from my "normal" experience of the world.
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yeah, I wonder. I just don't find a self anywhere. It feels normal and even kind of boring to me. Almost disappointing. "Oh, this is it?"
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I can go around all day observing that whatever is "me", isn't. Nothing much will happen, except I'll probably be a bit sharper.
But when something that is attending to or looking for this "me" stops, it all collapses into waves or bits or a number of other, transient phenomena.
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And then a few seconds, minutes, hours pass and the habit of looking/attending starts up again.
I'm not sure what you mean by stopping looking.
Does your attention stop moving to objects?
Or do you stop looking for a self at all?
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