Remembering a Buddhist critique of certain (typically tantric) practices.
"you may be stuck in bliss for a 1,000 lifetimes, making no progress."
Mentioned it to my teacher. He laughed, "and being stuck in bliss for a 1,000 lifetimes is a problem why?"
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Then, by definition, are you not experiencing ennui rather than bliss?
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My impression is that any lasting bliss implies a massive decrease in embodied conditioning.
You simply can't sustain that level of sheer happiness without letting go of a lot of striving. It will all collapse into shit if it isn't grounded in a profound lack of care.
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Yeah I tend to mirror that attitude as much as or perhaps moreso than what is reasonable.
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More in the grindy practice over talking phase.
Mostly I share dead simple meditation tips now, butt heads with others occasionally and/or skinny dip for shared experiences.
Talking through this stuff can be useful, but there's a real risk of talking your practice to death.
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Forgot to add: I find Zen masters seem to be smack dab in the middle of a bliss/very light & spontaneous state most of the time.
I can sort of bring it forth with gentle rustling, but it takes some doing - and rarely stays on long without conducive circumstances.
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It seems like a persistent side-effect of no-thought is that you feel mostly OK to great unless there are really good bodily reasons not to.