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Closest I can say to have gotten to lasting awakening is that discussions on the topic increasingly leave me numb, bored, vaguely annoyed.
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I love discussing the craft of contemplative practices and all the weird stuff it entails. But what is or isn't a good/worthy/relevant "goal", "path", "mindset", "model" or whatever? Strong meh.
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So too for the hyperorthodoxy that sometimes pops up. - The "purpose" of the practice, ethically, spiritually or socially - The "correct" thing to want from your practice Boring!
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If Holly in sales wants to use mantra meditation to be more efficient at work, I don't really see why this concerns me. I know it used to bother me, but it just seems sort of pointlessly conceited.
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Like telling people that trimming fat to look good is a silly, fatuous reason to exercise. You may think so - I often do - but since when is your opinion so fucking important?
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It's the same sort of feeling I get from people sticking their noses in other people's business without due cause. Is being technically correct more important than making a relevant, net positive impact *where possible*? Probably not, right?
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So a lot of this is inspired by realizing I've been kind of an asshole to some people on these topics, some of the time. But I have to say, the amount of callousness people will engage in to feel unnecessary pride in their own approach is... Grim.
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And not a %, but majority of the discussion I see on awakening gets to be about that real fast. Not "what's a cool way to practice," or "have you tried doing this?" or even "this is a good source on that." Instead, "you need this for that," "but this philsophy says" ad nauseam.
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Again, not saying those can't be relevant topics. But if the aim is to seriously discuss practice, they feel really boring & irrelevant.
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