One could, but I don't think that's what Euvie meant. (Feel free to correct me )
If you shut up the chatty self-referencing mind, there is still occasionally chatty mind.
It just isn't the only player in the orchestra who gets to be on stage.
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I'm with the Zen guys on this.
Come to think of it, I'm probably a crypto Zen Buddhist in more ways than one.
Not, mind, because thoughts are so dangerous. They're mostly just annoying and distracting. #NotAllThoughts, though.
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You ever had a bad case of itches?
Those are REALLY ANNOYING.
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I am by no means some sort of -type person, so I don't feel confident defending the particulars of the practice.
But for me, I find that itching doesn't really lead to the same sort of befuddlement. If anything, getting *really* bothered by an itch has been useful.
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Thought is not the “problem” but relationship to the thought might prevent you from realization. Is my understanding of it. And in fact you need the thoughts to become aware of how you are relating to them.
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That's what I usually hear, too.
For me, thoughts seem to interfere more with my training. So I can do fine-grained insight on pain or discomfort, but thoughts are considerably more difficult.
Prepared to acknowledge that's just a fault in my training or understanding, though.
Sometimes, thoughts can be framed like leaves floating downstream in a creek. You’re not analyzing what kind of leaves they are or what color, just that there are leaves floating by.
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