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I wish centrists would realise this is about more than Corbyn. They can whine all they like, continue to convince themselves the Left are a lunatic fringe. It won't change the social forces at play. Fascism, or some form of ecosocialism. They have to pick one eventually.
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It won't work, even when it does. They will use climate change the same way the Nazis used socialism: as a cover for a more exclusive dominance of the White rich people. Only all inclusive and internationalist action stands any chance of success.
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I have a bit of a contention with that. I think ecofascism is much more likely to come out of China or India. Both of those countries are about to get hit very hard by climate change. And they're much more powerful, both economically and militarily, than they get credit for.
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While it's a historically accurate picture of fascism, at least in a European context, it's also a bit of a racist trope that doesn't give other people enough credit. The Japanese might well have conquered half of Asia, had they not pissed off the US at the worst time possible.
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As I was writing it, I was mulling Japan. But I think that *that's* the orientalist trope, to label them fascist. They shared many brutal characteristics, but they were also *incredibly* different.
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Nah, I wouldn't say they were *that* different. There are no traditional characteristics of fascism that weren't present there, AFAIK. It's the conflation of fascist and Nazi that is orientalist, I think. They were certainly not very much like the Nazis, at all.
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I had in mind the systemic characteristics, Emperor vs degraded capitalist democracy. But, Japan did go in hard for corporate models, so maybe you're right? But it doesn't negate the depth of leftist cultural & political hegemony in China.
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