Do you know what kind of incarnations they were? Whole incarnation or a partial emanation from the mind-body-speech?
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It’s frustrating to me, in an empathetic way, that so many practitioners in Vajrayana who legitimately need guidance from a teacher get so few answers from leaders who don’t have enough answers themselves, so they shroud their confusion with ritualistic mysticism.
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Very well said. I find most teachers are not teaching from experience, but quoting from texts and commentaries. How is this different than a Baptist quoting the New Testament?
Students need guidance, and as you well point out, they aren't getting it.
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Not only is it a robotic parakeet trick of recital, but it robs each experience of any & all real value in the esoteric quality of life’s moments by making it an exoteric mockery. In something that’s based in lineage-holding, this constitutes corruption in a single generation…
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Let alone many generations… At least in Chinese/Japanese esoteric Buddhism, they stick to mostly one script & their time-tested method of discipline, instead of trying to juggle the preservation of a hundred different teachings & traditions.
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agreed. the Tibetan approach is messy. too many deities. too many termas. it confuses students endlessly.
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Termas still make me wonder… really? You found that scroll in a rock? I didn’t see it in there, and I’ve passed this rock a hundred times…
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Mahayana sutras, Tibetan Termas, Book of Mormon, Christian Science & Scientology "scriptures", Q'ran, etc. may be examples of automatic writing en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic
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Ah, yes, the supernatural ability to not fill your head with chatter every damn second of the day...