Travis Ekbom  💣

You can independently think that, but 2) and 3) are both clearly, unambiguously contained in the first impeachment article, and that's what you're endorsing if you vote yes on it. Thank goodness Tulsi recognized the danger of endorsing those two concepts and voted present.

But that's not true Michael. You vote on the articles of impeachment not the House Judiciary Committee report! You're reaching so hard on this. If your theory that its really about Russia is true then why is article 1 clearly and explicitly about Ukraine?

It's "reaching" to read the rationale provided by the people who literally drafted the articles? The word "Russia" comes up four times in the actual text. Is it "reaching" to believe Pelosi when she explicitly stated, "This isn't about Ukraine, this is about Russia"?

Yes! Because article 1 mentions Ukraine ***11 times***, and is explicitly about Ukraine, not about Russia! I'm sure the judiciary report bitches about why they think aid to Ukraine is necessary to stop "Russian aggression" (& I disagree with them!) But we're not voting on that!

OK, there's a huge body of evidence in the Report, in the statements of Schiff, Nadler, Pelosi etc., and in the article itself confirming that crazy militaristic Russiagate / Cold War logic is what drove this. That's a terrible vehicle for penalizing Trump. Tulsi recognized this.

1) then vote no & censure (I applaud the censure not the "present" vote) 2) there's no reason to vote anything but no on art 2 3) Art 1 simply isn't about Russiagate or Mueller or any of that stuff (we largely agree on!) It's prima facie about Ukraine & withholding aid for gain

On 3) -- Article 1 says, "These actions were consistent with President Trump’s previous invitations of foreign interference in US elections." Those "previous invitations" are defined as Trump saying "I love WikiLeaks" in 2016 etc. So yes, they smuggled Russiagate into the article

This is getting so pedantic dude. They had to "smuggle" in tortured references to Russiagate bc they couldn't make it the cornerstone so they picked a shitty strategy which happens to be factually true (that he withheld aid for personal gain)