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    Tom Chivers‏Verified account @TomChivers 13 Sep 2018

    Tom Chivers Retweeted ONS

    interestingly, in this, "interacting with your friends via social media" doesn't count as socialising, but talking to them on the phone does. Social media is included in "computing".https://twitter.com/ONS/status/1040163288867373056 …

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    18-year-olds spend almost half an hour less per day socialising than they did at the start of the millennium. They’re also watching less TV, but spending more time using computers and gaming http://ow.ly/uKVO30lNJdn  pic.twitter.com/mR3eelgoJA
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      1. Tom Chivers‏Verified account @TomChivers 13 Sep 2018

        this is part of a wider problem: talking about "computing", "screen time", "computing" etc as unitary things. When you lump WhatsApp in the same category as Minecraft and doing your taxes on a spreadsheet, you've lost so much information that it's nearly useless

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      2. ZenoDEADCENTRE.com‏ @ZenoDEADCENTRE1 13 Sep 2018
        Replying to @TomChivers

        Doesn’t work, does it? Fortnite etc are often both a social experience and a game.

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      3. Tom Chivers‏Verified account @TomChivers 13 Sep 2018
        Replying to @ZenoDEADCENTRE1

        exactly

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      4. ZenoDEADCENTRE.com‏ @ZenoDEADCENTRE1 13 Sep 2018
        Replying to @TomChivers

        Teachers I know say the problem with Fortnite is precisely that it is a social experience and kids don’t want to be left out, so stay up late playing it. If that’s right, this survey actually hides the real problem.

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      2. Rob Manuel‏Verified account @robmanuel 13 Sep 2018
        Replying to @TomChivers

        Gaming can be very social - or completely isolating depending on the game

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      3. Tom Chivers‏Verified account @TomChivers 13 Sep 2018
        Replying to @robmanuel

        yup. This is @ShuhBillSkee and @PeteEtchells's refrain, that trying to lump "gaming" (or "screen time" or "computing") into a single category loses so much information that it's essentially useless

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      4. michael‏ @un434 13 Sep 2018
        Replying to @TomChivers @robmanuel and

        Fortnite squads is the most sociable I get

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      2. (:@&‏ @CuckRogers1 13 Sep 2018
        Replying to @TomChivers

        So, a total bollocks of a survey then

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      3. Tom Chivers‏Verified account @TomChivers 13 Sep 2018
        Replying to @CuckRogers1

        just kind of useless imo, yes

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      2. John Meredith‏ @TorquilMacneil 13 Sep 2018
        Replying to @TomChivers

        I have some sympathy with that distinction. A phone convo feels social in a way that text messages don't. Similarly, I don't think we would describe someone who communicated entirely by letter a social person, even if a great correspondent.

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      3. Tom Chivers‏Verified account @TomChivers 13 Sep 2018
        Replying to @TorquilMacneil

        I think they feel that way to you, and to some extent to me, because it's not what you've grown up with. But group chats are absolutely part of socialising for younger people. (And it's immediate, so different from letter-writing; there's back-and-forth).

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      4. Dr Ása Johannesen‏ @WhatBehaviour 13 Sep 2018
        Replying to @TomChivers @TorquilMacneil

        Also we use a lot of voice chat when gaming. It's definitely social that way.

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      5. John Meredith‏ @TorquilMacneil 13 Sep 2018
        Replying to @WhatBehaviour @TomChivers

        I think gaming with live chat does seem like a social activity. When I watch it, it looks like that and it seems positive. Instagram chats not so much, it has a compulsive aspect that leaves them enervated and irritable. It just doesn't look social.

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      1. harley scorbunny‏ @harleyfire24 13 Sep 2018
        Replying to @TomChivers @lara_santaella

        So basically the entire study is useless lol

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      1. EatJerry‏ @stonermouse 13 Sep 2018
        Replying to @TomChivers

        Regardless of how you categorize socializing vs computing, my reaction is always, "so what?" Even if it's true that young people socialize less, in the traditional sense, what does it matter? Changes in social dynamics and methods are CONSTANT throughout history.

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      1. Kat‏ @mostly_sleepy 13 Sep 2018
        Replying to @TomChivers @anwen

        I wonder if Netflix and other streaming services are included in computing too. Young people might watch non-time-shifted TV in the living room less, but they're still watching TV shows.

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      1. Dr Adam Rutherford‏ @AdamRutherford 13 Sep 2018
        Replying to @TomChivers

        What about FaceTiming?

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      1. Michael 🎲‏ @michael_qld 13 Sep 2018
        Replying to @TomChivers

        That makes sense I loath socialising hence loath phone calls and I can vaguely remember being 18 years old. 🤔

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      1. Tracy King‏Verified account @tkingdot 13 Sep 2018
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