I’ll have a look and report back!
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I appreciate Goldsmith's piece. If it works with clients, I'm not going to argue, but I don't think we need to throw out the "sick" concept. The sick soul and the healthy-minded (borrowing William James' terms) are two types of religious experience. Neither is inherently better.
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Odgovor korisnicima @doctormickey @cognazor i sljedećem broju korisnika:
Similarly, I'm all for nonduality, but duality doesn't seem inherently wrong. I would take a side view and ask, How does it play out in practice? It's worth recalling that the heights of contemplative experience in Christianity often maintained a Creator/creation dualism.
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So this is interesting. Couple things: I am a non-theist, and in many ways I think that the zoroastrian and abrahamic creator/creation dualism inheritance has f*ed things up a lot. (I can also grok why it arose.) That said, I grew up around dualists, love them, and...
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Odgovor korisnicima @Timber_22 @doctormickey i sljedećem broju korisnika:
...kind of "get it". I mean, Amazing Grace as a redemption narrative, just to pick a microcosmic example, I feel it.
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Odgovor korisnicima @Timber_22 @doctormickey i sljedećem broju korisnika:
And one of the things I was pushing back against
@cognazor 's and@jim_rutt 's uncomfortableness with the word "spirituality" is that it does a lot of work for us, linguistically, in the culture as it plays right now.0 proslijeđenih tweetova 3 korisnika označavaju da im se sviđa -
Odgovor korisnicima @Timber_22 @doctormickey i sljedećem broju korisnika:
but is it good work? Over the last 6 mon I’ve come to appreciate the potential benefits of contemplative practices. Also a fan, but not a recent user of psychedelic. Letting such useful things fall into the “religion” attractor, leads to them accreting baloney. See Buddhism.
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Odgovor korisnicima @jim_rutt @doctormickey i sljedećem broju korisnika:
"Letting such useful things fall into the “religion” attractor, leads to them accreting baloney. See Buddhism" I'm intimately acquainted with the baloney in Buddhism

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Odgovor korisnicima @Timber_22 @doctormickey i sljedećem broju korisnika:
I would say it is "good work" in so far as one's spiritual practices and values act as a wellspring from which beneficial ways-of-being-in-the-world can emerge. To the extent that a person's life in this world is enhanced and supported by how they understand their spiritual life
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I'd say it's doing good work. And there are a whole lot of failure modes. As for me, I appreciate the old line from Edward Gibbon about religions: to the poet, they are equally true; to the philosopher, equally false; and to the magistrate, as equally useful
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Odgovor korisnicima @Timber_22 @doctormickey i sljedećem broju korisnika:
I tend to see the attractor basin of religion through all three of Gibbon's lenses simultaneously; and I'd add a fourth, for magistrates: they're all potentially dangerous in their own way,
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Odgovor korisnicima @Timber_22 @doctormickey i sljedećem broju korisnika:
and a fifth, for healers: equally possessing a place in the treatment of disease - not because magic or supernatural effects are real, but because the human bodymind is so complex that subtle interventions can *sometimes* have unpredictable beneficial effects. Good ol' placebo
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