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    Tim Sweeney‏ @TimSweeneyEpic 2 Jul 2017
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    C++17 modules + eliminate redundent compilation of .h - don't improve privacy/modularity - don't solve the fragile base class problem

    9:56 AM - 2 Jul 2017
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    • Prawut Wangsurong Daniel Smoliński Stardust Games Popa Adrian Marius Kyle Howells /dev/sp3ctrum MinxiesDev Ali Salehi Jashua W. Montanez
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      2. Nebulon Ranger‏ @NebRanger 2 Jul 2017
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        Meanwhile in C#/Mono land, much of this is already solved.

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      3. Tim Sweeney‏ @TimSweeneyEpic 2 Jul 2017
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        C#/Java don't have the power that creates the problem that C++ modules solve: templates are far more expressive than generics.

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      2. Sebastian Sylvan‏ @ssylvan 2 Jul 2017
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        Replying to @TimSweeneyEpic

        Curious what you'd like on the 2nd bullet. '17 modules (could) prevent unecessary recompiles on private class changes, no?

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      3. Tim Sweeney‏ @TimSweeneyEpic 2 Jul 2017
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        I'd like for in-memory C++ class representation and load-time linking to solve this and provide forward compatible dynamic linking.

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      2. Klaim‏ @MJKlaim 3 Jul 2017
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        What is "fragile base class" problem? I might know it under another name.

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      3. Tim Sweeney‏ @TimSweeneyEpic 3 Jul 2017
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        Adding a virtual function to a class in a DLL breaks dependent DLLs that haven't been recompiled.

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      2. Patrice Roy‏ @PatriceRoy1 2 Jul 2017
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        Replying to @TimSweeneyEpic

        I'm not sure the expectations match the feature in this case. Maybe you should write a proposal explaining why you expected that?

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      3. Tim Sweeney‏ @TimSweeneyEpic 2 Jul 2017
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        Those are the problems modules are supposed solve in programming. The current spec would better be titled "multiple precompiled headers".

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      2. find me in the net‏ @goldbuick 2 Jul 2017
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        can we get a C++EZ streamlined C++ and efficient

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      3. Nebulon Ranger‏ @NebRanger 2 Jul 2017
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        Sure. It's called C# 7.0.

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