Did you build Android, Tim? Do you provide a ton of developer tools and documentation allowing people to build on Android? No, you simply leech off this work and claim that their 30% is too much. I don't care for defending everything Google does but you're in the wrong.
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Replying to @graeme_pollard @TimSweeneyEpic
Is there reason to think Google requires 30% to cover those costs?
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Replying to @joewintergreen @TimSweeneyEpic
Couldn't say as I don't know Googles financials, obviously. I'm purely pointing out Tim's repeated false equivalencies whenever he compares stores to Epic's.
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Replying to @graeme_pollard @joewintergreen
I did an exercise and estimated that Google annual search revenge attributable to being the default search engine was 20x the annual cost of developing the Android OS. All digital app stores worldwide are a $100B/year business!
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I mean: attributable to Google being the default search engine just on Android.
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Replying to @TimSweeneyEpic @joewintergreen
In my opinion that shouldn't be considered part of their business model with the play store. It'd be like saying Epic an justify their low share because Fortnite rakes in enough money to fund just about anything. The Android platform and store are the business model
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Replying to @graeme_pollard @joewintergreen
We could just look at just the Google Play store and security team. Maybe 250-1000 people worldwide? Versus the 1,000,000+ indie developers around the world (based on combined Unreal and Unity stats) contributing to Android games...
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Or slicing another way: $100B annual revenue from all digital app stores, $30B cut to stores, and maybe 5,000 professional OS developers worldwide across all platform companies. So $6,000,000/year salary per OS developer, if the revenue actually paid for their cost...
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Would be great if platform makers shared their cost breakdown for transparency. As it is, the platform maker argument that their 30% cut funds their development cost, while true, conceals a 300% to 500% markup on all costs, and maybe 2000% markup on software engineering costs.
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Replying to @TimSweeneyEpic @joewintergreen
I agree, transparency is always appreciated but understandably rarely forthcoming. I'm merely saying you can't compare the Play Store that operates on top of a platform they built and the Epic store which operates on top of the same platform without any royalties
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But we need to compare, otherwise monopoly stores will be propped up by their own inscrutability. If Google pays Apple $3B/year to be default search on iOS, then Google can fund the whole cost of Android OS dev through the value of search alone. https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/14/google-paying-apple-3-billion-to-remain-default-search--bernstein.html …
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