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Social worker, writer, ex-law, token allistic co-director of majority-autistic-led @ActualA_tistic. My opinions shouldn't be attributed to employers. She/her.

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    Hannah Erroneous‏ @TheMonaOgg 24 Dec 2018

    A thread: HOW TO HELP IN THE KITCHEN AT THE HOLIDAYS WHEN YOU ARE A DUDE AND HAVE BEEN HISTORICALLY SHOOED OUT OF THE KITCHEN, ONLY TO WATCH YOUR MOTHERS AND SISTERS LOOK EXHAUSTED ALL THROUGH THE HOLIDAY

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      2. Hannah Erroneous‏ @TheMonaOgg 24 Dec 2018

        1. Preparation, preparation, preparation! In households with heavily gendered divisions of labour, girls and women get gradually kitchen-trained over time, and only someone who is already kitchen-trained is allowed to do the Complicated Jobs.

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      3. Hannah Erroneous‏ @TheMonaOgg 24 Dec 2018

        This is because festival cooking is high-stakes: rightly or wrongly, there can be a big fear of being judged as a poor host by festival attendees if the food goes wrong, and this pressure tends to be directed squarely at women.

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      4. Hannah Erroneous‏ @TheMonaOgg 24 Dec 2018

        So only proven competent kitchen workers are allowed to do Serious Cooking Tasks. So if you want to help, really help, then the best thing you can do is to submit for some training early.

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      5. Hannah Erroneous‏ @TheMonaOgg 24 Dec 2018

        That means chatting to your family about wanting to help, and having that conversation more than a week before the holiday, at absolute minimum.

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      6. Hannah Erroneous‏ @TheMonaOgg 24 Dec 2018

        Maybe you'll get assigned to shopping or wrapping, or maybe you'll get to start learning the family recipes, but it's sure not gonna happen the night before the holiday. But it's too late for that now, so what else can you do?

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      7. Hannah Erroneous‏ @TheMonaOgg 24 Dec 2018

        2. Take off the load by taking on The Intermediate/Easy Tasks. Maybe you don't know the special family recipe for roast turkey/latkes/bao, but you know how to Deal With Vegetables.

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      8. Hannah Erroneous‏ @TheMonaOgg 24 Dec 2018

        But does your family know that you know how to Deal With Vegetables? Tasks only get delegated to those who appear basically competent at them.

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      9. Hannah Erroneous‏ @TheMonaOgg 24 Dec 2018

        Before offering, you're gonna want to ask in a way that says:

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      10. Hannah Erroneous‏ @TheMonaOgg 24 Dec 2018

        "Yo I know the difference between dicing in little vs big cubes vs slicing into medallions vs shredding vs grating vs coarse chopping, and I will TAKE YOUR INSTRUCTIONS rather than quibbling with them, and do it on a surface outside the prime kitchen space."

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      11. Hannah Erroneous‏ @TheMonaOgg 24 Dec 2018

        To take on The Intermediate/Easy Tasks is to be a competent and willing deputy, with essentially no opinion. Opinions are for folks who have earned their place in the Land of the Complicated Jobs (aka the head chefs of the family kitchen).

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      12. Hannah Erroneous‏ @TheMonaOgg 24 Dec 2018

        Easy/Intermediate tasks include setting the table (find out the preferred style of place settings), vegetable prep, laying out items which only require putting into bowls, and ENTERTAINING THE EXISTING GUESTS TO BUY TIME if instructed to do so.

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      13. Hannah Erroneous‏ @TheMonaOgg 24 Dec 2018

        This may not feel like an actual job, but if it has been assigned to you it is because kitchen things are running behind and it is an actual job. Keep those guests distracted!

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      14. Hannah Erroneous‏ @TheMonaOgg 24 Dec 2018

        Childcare is a whole other thread. A short aside though: childminding doesn’t mean getting the kids messy or hyper.

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      15. Hannah Erroneous‏ @TheMonaOgg 24 Dec 2018

        3. Take the task you are assigned, not the task that you would rather be doing, and do it the way you were told to do it.

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      16. Hannah Erroneous‏ @TheMonaOgg 24 Dec 2018

        Everyone who has experience being a First Officer of holidays knows well the pain of believing that you could arrange the day better, and that the Captain is getting frazzled and making poor calls.

        2 replies 31 retweets 1,256 likes
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      17. Hannah Erroneous‏ @TheMonaOgg 24 Dec 2018

        However, every First Officer also knows that pointing this out past a certain point of stress will only result in a completely unnecessary screaming match. This is a new lesson if you are a new recruit. Learn it and keep it close to your heart.

        2 replies 34 retweets 1,362 likes
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      18. Hannah Erroneous‏ @TheMonaOgg 24 Dec 2018

        3a. If you need to ask clarifying questions, ask them. You may not know why a thing needs to be done a particular way, and the instruction might seem confusing to you at first. Clarifying is better than guessing.

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      19. Hannah Erroneous‏ @TheMonaOgg 24 Dec 2018

        Aim for, "Righto, boss, let me just make sure I've got that right!" in your tone. Strongly avoid, "Um, are you sure?"

        7 replies 32 retweets 1,434 likes
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      20. Hannah Erroneous‏ @TheMonaOgg 24 Dec 2018

        4. Whoops, forgot I had a whole number for this. CHILDCARE IS A RELEVANT TASK. Keeping guests' children entertained keeps disaster at bay. When I posted this elsewhere a friend wrote a great subthread on the specifics, and I’ll seek her permission to share it later.

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      21. Hannah Erroneous‏ @TheMonaOgg 24 Dec 2018

        5. Help to clean up. If you know how to stack and scrape plates and wash dishes, you are capable of this. Those who do not cook must clean. It Is Known.

        20 replies 218 retweets 2,829 likes
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      22. Hannah Erroneous‏ @TheMonaOgg 24 Dec 2018

        Ask if any items require special treatment, are not dishwasher safe (if you have access to a dishwasher), etc, and then have at it.

        3 replies 21 retweets 913 likes
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      23. Hannah Erroneous‏ @TheMonaOgg 24 Dec 2018

        6. Run this list past your Captain and First Officer and ask for their take, and they will probably have some really specific anecdotes and also some suggestions about what you can do to take the load off them in a way that is desirable to them.

        31 replies 25 retweets 1,242 likes
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      24. Hannah Erroneous‏ @TheMonaOgg 25 Dec 2018

        Hannah Erroneous Retweeted Hannah Erroneous

        https://twitter.com/themonaogg/status/1077678563803811840?s=21 …

        Hannah Erroneous added,

        Hannah Erroneous @TheMonaOgg
        My favourite negative reactions to this thread have been “wow, so hierarchical”. I get why people like horizontal hierarchies and they have their place, but time sensitive operations involving expertise built up over years is a great contest for listening to the experienced folk. https://twitter.com/fightingmonk/status/1077676954961174528 …
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      25. Hannah Erroneous‏ @TheMonaOgg 25 Dec 2018

        Also, for those who are reacting with horror to the very idea of this level of labour and stress - most of the stress actually disappears and transmutes into positive anticipation if the Captain and First Officer know for sure they have lots of helpers.

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      26. Hannah Erroneous‏ @TheMonaOgg 25 Dec 2018

        Some beautiful and rewarding things only get done with lots of work. Maybe you’d love to just order pizza, and so would everyone else in your family. Beautiful! I applaud you! But maybe some people in your family adore some holiday traditions. Get curious about why.

        9 replies 19 retweets 790 likes
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      27. Hannah Erroneous‏ @TheMonaOgg 26 Dec 2018

        Oh lord I should probably be self-promotional. If you noticed that kids in your family are absorbing traditional gender roles unchallenged, I illustrated this great book about transcending prescribed roles - and it has dragons, princesses and ninjas!https://amzn.to/2KEhDlz 

        7 replies 16 retweets 227 likes
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      28. Hannah Erroneous‏ @TheMonaOgg 1 Jan 2019

        Hannah Erroneous Retweeted Hannah Erroneous

        https://twitter.com/TheMonaOgg/status/1080336773257916416 …

        Hannah Erroneous added,

        Hannah Erroneous @TheMonaOgg
        Hey new followers! If you're here bc of my thread about understanding the social rules of holiday kitchens, you should know I'm part of an arts company, & we love unpicking interpersonal dynamics! We are @ActualA_tistic , & we just launched our website! https://www.a-tistic.com.au/ 
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      29. Hannah Erroneous‏ @TheMonaOgg 1 Nov 2020

        Hannah Erroneous Retweeted A_tistic Theatre

        If you've come to this thread in 2020, perhaps you'd like to enjoy my partner and I talking about gender, neurodivergence, high stress social situations and Jane Austen this weekendhttps://twitter.com/ActualA_tistic/status/1315799272898478080?s=20 …

        Hannah Erroneous added,

        A_tistic Theatre @ActualA_tistic
        A_tistic are coming to AustenCon online! On Nov 7th from 1-2pm Australian EST, catch Hannah and James' talk: "Performing to Strangers: Reading Neurodivergence in Pride and Prejudice". To book, or check out all the other fascinating presentations: https://www.24carrotproductions.com/austen-con 
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      30. Hannah Erroneous‏ @TheMonaOgg 1 Nov 2020

        Hannah Erroneous Retweeted Hannah Erroneous

        Oh, and while mulling over why this thread keeps coming backhttps://twitter.com/TheMonaOgg/status/1323088298248560640?s=20 …

        Hannah Erroneous added,

        Hannah Erroneous @TheMonaOgg
        I only ever repost it if someone else pulls it out and reposts it first, and I keep forgetting it exists. Also, every time I am reminded of it, it offers a new chance to think about the relationship between expertise, obligation and power.
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      31. End of conversation

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