I realize this is a pretty divisive question, coming down to "Are the actions meaningful without absolute faith, and is absolute faith meaningful without actions", but even if your ultimate take is that I'm going to Hell, I at least respect you taking the time to reply.
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Maybe not who you wanted to have respond, but myself (Arty) and my husband (Felix) were both raised Christian. If it helps, I was taught that nothing can take your faith away from you. If you lose belief or merely just stop adherence to a church oriented social circle...
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...you're still considered saved in the eyes of God. My personal beliefs have swayed towards logical unknowable truths lately. If every culture in the world has a different view on God, how can one be more right than another? How do you choose?
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My take on the whole thing is that what's important is how you live your life, not necessarily what team you throw your lot in with. I try to help people, but I don't shout about it. I'd rather be as in Luke 18:9-14.
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It's not anyone else's business who I help, or why, or how. There's this unfortunately pervasive idea these days that people need to be vocal about who they help. I try to live by Matthew 6:2. If you help someone, just do it.
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Do it because it's simply the right thing to do, not because you're hoping for some reward in heaven. That's kind of where I really take issue with the faith - the idea that we're helping people not just because it's what you should do, but because it has some post-death reward.
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That's exactly the ideas I try to stay away from. Searching for a reward for assisting others is not a reason to help someone. That shouldn't even be something tied to religion, helping one another without bias is something everyone should do
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Absolutely, but all the same it's why I can't completely write off religion. For whatever reason, some folks need a reason to be charitable towards others, and I can't really fault religion for that. I can fault religion for all of the other bad shit. But not that.
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Haha very true :3 I don't write off religion at all, I still view myself as Christian, even if many wouldn't do the same for me. I love my husband and I don't believe that feeling is forbidden by God. People are the ones that have written the rules against being gay. Not God.
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Religion itself isn't bad, but it's unfortunately used for evil by evil people.
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I look at it like this: When I die, if I even get judged, I hope I'll be looked upon more favorably for my works than the fuckers who abuse faith to buy another private jet. If warming a pew every Sunday is the deal-breaker, I'll happily go down with the sexy demons.
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Haha ya I'm pretty much in the same boat. I can't bring myself to believe that an all-knowing benevolent God would send me to hell just for not going to church every Sunday. And if He would... That's not a God I want to know
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