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    1. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet May 2

      Here's the deal: getting to fuck robots won't make incels happy because their unhappiness isn't rooted in lack of sex. It's rooted in misogynist anger at not being able to control women.

      225 replies 1,830 retweets 9,678 likes
    2. The Fool‏ @TheFool37 May 2
      Replying to @HeerJeet

      I think it's probably a little of both and it's hard to put numbers on those mutual causal arrows. Your blanket statement is like saying all liberals oppose tax cuts for the rich not for economic reasons but just to tweak Republicans.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. WomanTalkingToDeath‏ @lisakwildman May 2
      Replying to @TheFool37 @HeerJeet

      No, he's correct. They are a self-identified group of misogynists, not just people who can't get laid.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    4. The Fool‏ @TheFool37 May 2
      Replying to @lisakwildman @HeerJeet

      Agreed but there is more than 1 causal factor at work.

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    5. WomanTalkingToDeath‏ @lisakwildman May 2
      Replying to @TheFool37 @HeerJeet

      OMG, this is why more women will die while society stands around going "I can't imagine how this happened." They write diatribes and make videos about how much they hate women. And we say no, it must be something else.

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    6. The Fool‏ @TheFool37 May 2
      Replying to @lisakwildman @HeerJeet

      No, no, no. Not at all. You're not listening. I'm not saying it is some ONE thing else. I'm saying there are multiple causal factors. You follow? I'm just saying that Heer's oversimplified blanket statement was oversimplified.

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    7. WomanTalkingToDeath‏ @lisakwildman May 2
      Replying to @TheFool37 @HeerJeet

      His statement wasn't even about casual factors.

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      The Fool‏ @TheFool37 May 2
      Replying to @lisakwildman @HeerJeet

      We must be looking at different things. I'm responding to Heer's tweet where he said incel motivations are rooted in one thing but not another. "Rooted in" = "caused by". You follow?

      9:34 AM - 2 May 2018
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        2. WomanTalkingToDeath‏ @lisakwildman May 2
          Replying to @TheFool37 @HeerJeet

          I do not think it's about sex. A lot of stuff "about sex" isn't really about sex.

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        3. The Fool‏ @TheFool37 May 2
          Replying to @lisakwildman @HeerJeet

          I think it is also partly about their frustrations over their inability to get sex

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        4. WomanTalkingToDeath‏ @lisakwildman May 2
          Replying to @TheFool37 @HeerJeet

          No. I'm sure they think so, but no. If it was about sex, they could pay a sexworker instead of demanding the government issue virgins with big tits to them.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. The Fool‏ @TheFool37 May 2
          Replying to @lisakwildman @HeerJeet

          1) you're still thinking in terms of 1 single cause 2) a sex worker isn't really the same (but the incels are just shit out of luck on that score) 3) You have to be rich to afford sex workers 4) having sex with sex workers is a life threatening activity

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        6. WomanTalkingToDeath‏ @lisakwildman May 2
          Replying to @TheFool37 @HeerJeet

          It's more dangerous for the sex worker. People hate women this much while having active sex lives. I'm not interested in philosophical hair-splitting, I just want the fucking terror to stop, and it won't while we sit around saying it's kinda bad, but have we considered their POV?

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