Some people attend church because they are Christian. Others are Christian because they attend church. These two groups do not serve the same god. And now, in the absence of church services, this is growing more starkly apparent.
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Spending one hour on Sunday praising Lord Jesus with your lips and denying Him with your choices the other 167 hours of the week does not constitute being a Christian. One is not a Christian for belonging to a social club or attending singalongs.
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Replying to @TheBrometheus
With a more Sacramental view of Church, this kind of becomes grey. Some people go because they recognize they need the Sacraments. Others go because the grace of the Sacraments quietly works within them and calls to them.
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Replying to @DoujinDev
Confessing sins to God, vowing to go out and atone for them as instructed as part of reconciliation, and failing to do so is not fulfilling the Sacrament. Love is unconditional but salvation is not, and the price is clearly stated. Unfortunately, narrow is the gate.
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Replying to @TheBrometheus @DoujinDev
Each Sacrament has a requirement from us to fulfill the contract. Failing to do so through constant choices does not make one a Christian at all. Many will call Lord, Lord. It’s brutally sad, but must be said.
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Replying to @TheBrometheus
Hm. Have to read “Swear to God” by Scott Hahn? The efficacy of the Sacraments is not dependent on our effectiveness, but on God’s. The primacy is on His Grace and not on our ability. There is danger in your line of thinking that may teeter on Pelagianism or self-improvement.
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Replying to @DoujinDev
The efficiency of the Sacraments is not dependent on our effectiveness, correct. I’d never claim such. But being baptized and going to church every Sunday as you spend the rest of your life spitting on people in need is hardly following Christ, is it?
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Replying to @TheBrometheus @DoujinDev
Unconditional salvation is a false teaching.
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Replying to @TheBrometheus
I think the qualifier is if the person is presumptuous of their salvation. One can be deeply mired in habitual sin, but could be pleading for mercy in Confession and Communion. To an outside observer, little may have changed, but interiorly, they know they are a deep sinner.
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Replying to @DoujinDev @TheBrometheus
The real problem person is the one who keeps spitting on the poor but assumes they are saved and worthy. But most Sundays, you always hear how much Jesus hates the hypocrites and the presumptuously holy.
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This is the original point I made, though you may not have thought so.
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Replying to @TheBrometheus
Ah. Well, I was thinking in the context of how differently Catholics and non-Catholic Christians approach Church given what you were asking about their behavior. I wasn’t sure how Music, Fellowship or being Preached at is supposed to alter behavior.
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