But come, try to actually answer my previous critiques, rather than resort to ad hominem. Ill give you some new ones as well. By what objective, observable, measurable mechanism do complex rituals imprint memories within participants?
Native Americans considered the land and animals sacred. Within the animism and religion, they intuited the interconnectedness of life, what we now draw in textbooks with imaginary arrows and call ecology. That was bigger than them or their immediate perception.
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Is the ecosystem important or is it meaningless? I think so, but it could be destroyed in an instant and the universe wouldn't blink. Meaning is in the mind and you will never measure it. You'll have to let go of nihilism to appreciate this. You are sacred, but your cup is full.
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Well, Im not a nihilist, so that will be easy. You've also proved the point. Meaning is subjective. Therefore you cant say that rituals that have no objective meaning, that myself and many others think are meaningless, are somehow fundamental to society.
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Haha ok. Well thanks for the convo. Ultimately, I do think marriage is good for society because it says the mating pair is sacred. I hope you at least agree that the integrity of the mating pair, on a cultural level, has effects that ripple through time - that's objective. Cheers
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Ecology, and the relationships between populations of life can be measured, demonstrated, objectively. Some of what they were on about was on the right track but they didnt have the science to show it. A lot of what they were saying was bullshit though.
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Regardless, any rituals the Native Americans performed to "bring balance to nature" or make it rain or whatever were pointless nonsense, just like our modern rituals.
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