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thing is, other than the memes/jokes, this discussion has imo been far more productive than any matchup complaint ive seen so far.

also people do say "learn the matchup, its not that bad" (despite it starting with me asking for help) so im not sure thats a solid point

What I mean is that MUs that most people would agree with is worse/way worse than Fox vs Marth (regardless of who wins) 1/3

I feel that many just say learn the MU and feel that any complain is just them "having Johns"/being lazy 2/3

I think a Samus complaining about Falcon or a Falcon complaining vs spacies feels way more reasonable for me if they still try to learn

At the end of the day it might be my experience alone but this is what I feel at least

It has nothing to do with how bad the matchup is, the reason is that usually most actually just whine and complain and dont try to learn.

Whining to whine is very different from saying "man this matchup is rough, how do I play it better"and every1 knows me/dfox/kjh put in work