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Fair is still rough cause there's way more different timings. Also I guess pray Marth can't SDI up air lmao

how frame perfect do you have to be if marth perfectly dashes forward/away also marth isnt fading away here :v

also what % does fair knock over and im assuming nair pushes you too far before it knocks over, any general idea on how long its viable?

unstaled fair didn't knock over till 65% and you're right on fade back nair, nothing true off cc'n it especially if they dash away

=( considering how hard it is to get in position to true CC i think using it on its own isnt worth it

only time I can see CC worth it is if you use it as a cover for your dtilt or approach after, so runup CC-grab but hope u dont actually CC

essentially making it a bit safer and covering a few options, since running shine-aerial is so bad vs marth then mix in shield as well

learning how to waveshine oos is sadly required i think for shield to be good, sucks