after 10 minutes of labbing i have now found a practical sheik UP B recovery that you cant cover with ledge standup (you have to guess)
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A timed ledge stand can beat laudandus recovery. Tested with Marth, a stand can cover ledge while still giving inv to protect from poof
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havent tested with marth but with fox this is not true
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React to low up b startup /w haxdash (Falcon) then punish. Laudandus recovery gives up ledge sweetspot so a lot of time to react and refresh
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If they do it high enough to hit you, a well timed regular getup beats it (as they have less travel time=
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