I remember watching a bit from DHA doubles and M2K got caught using this and got shined/bair'd into edgeguard
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Antwort an @tafokints @TSM_Leffen
Let me find a timestamp of this tonight. I think there's a legit timing window where a Sheik can't do this w/o dealing a weakhit.
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Antwort an @tafokints @TSM_Leffen
Not sure how viable this is, but I think if you read it, I feel F-Smash has a good window here (also bcuz sheik is trying to hold away)
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Antwort an @tafokints
Fsmash is super risky, slow to react and wont out prioritize bair.
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Antwort an @TSM_Leffen
Once Sheik's back is turned in certain spots, I don't know if she has many optionshttps://youtu.be/sKINNJ9981U?t=419 …
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Simply not true. She can easily waveland/land on stage, up B, or needle turnaround. Just watch m2k vods, he does this
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Antwort an @TSM_Leffen
Don't we have favorable options to all of this (from Fox's perspective)? Up + B, Sheik still has to turn around to grab
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Antwort an @tafokints
None of these are reactable, even sheik running offstage isnt. Thats the whole point, you have decent options but they set the pace.
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Antwort an @TSM_Leffen @tafokints
Youre also forgetting that fox vs sheik by the edge is an inherently risky situation, things that beat runoff bair risks u getting grabbed.
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Antwort an @TSM_Leffen
Is it better to just not engage and play center in most cases?
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Depends on the character etc, the situation is not figured out by any means. More importantly its certainly not as simple as u first put it.
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Antwort an @TSM_Leffen
I think that's a better way to frame this. I think the better question I have is, if the Bair comes out and we're in a favorable spot. 1/2
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Antwort an @tafokints @TSM_Leffen
Is there a better punish that can we can do with Fox? (similar to how people have discovered how to punish Falco 2x laser)
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