@TSM_Leffen Fresh drill can be +6 to +8 on hit, that's why drill grab works a lot. Is it not viable to try drill dtilt/usmash? utilt?
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the reason I'm leaning towards no on dtilt/usmash is because everyone holds shield anyways. Utilt might be fast enough though?
i already do utilt dawg, look at the clip of me on r/smashbros (second stock)
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hmm so usmash must be too risky especially since in most cases you can grab uthrow uair or utilt uair anyways
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I do it on puff but that's the only one
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