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what are the best players for ultimate that don't live in a good scene? preferably if they werent also top smash 4 players

yeah seems like there isn't really anyone doing too well with little no wonder really, Ultimate seems like the most scene dependent game of late. The number of matchups + the bad online + the casualness of the avg competitor means that good practice is broken AF

The sad part of this is not how hard it is for me - I've played DBFZ in similar conditions and Melee in even worse ones. I'm fine with it being harder. The sad part is that every god damn ult player from europe excuses their shitty habits & their lack of discipline with it

"whats the point of practicing if there's not going to be any big majors for me to go to" its not techinically wrong, but it's so alien to me. all these people have 0 intristic motivation to actually better themselves and do it all for the money and fame? playing smash? for money

obviously I would love for there to be more money in the scene, but I never think it should be the main reason why anyone tries to get good at smash. Those people would rarely if ever stand a chance at making that money vs people who are truly driven anyway TBH