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how the fuck do I jumpin or shield vs zoom or magic burst when im offstage lmao And he can cancel it with 4 frame lag then a 6 frame grab vs shield or a uptilt vs jumpins. I hate when people act as if you know heros not going to cancel menu lmao
Sheik needles are also reactable in melee if you dont count the fact that you can cancel them. You cant react to thwacks startup itself reliably while also reacting to other options.
Yeah you're right, you can't react to Sheik needles when they mix it up if you're not expecting needles, and you can't react to Thwack if they mix it up if you're not expecting the Thwack. But do I need to explain to you why it's important to prioritize what you're reacting to?
As long as you concede that all his spells do not have easy or reactable counter play like you said in your first post we are on the same page. Its literally the move with the most complex counterplay in the game because he has 20 spells randomly that you need to read of a menu
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