inb4: "uh ivy dair was braindead" ya maybe against little mac or ur shitty elite smash ganon
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PT overall is definitely worse IMO, you play Ivy significantly more than you play Charizard. But this does make matchups where Ivy struggled significantly better since charizard exists now. I'm really going to miss Up B confirms and Ivy dair tho, the hardest to master moves tbh
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Nothing was wrong with Pt and you're all just bad
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Shots Fire!
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Myran: i like olimar for his input heavy gameplay Pt mains: dair was hard to master
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Dair is a slow, fairly weak, 1 frame active spike. What's really broken about it it's the range.
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Complaining about Ivysaur nerfs smh like bruh lmao Ivy's D-air definitely was just Smash 4 Cloud F-air but on steroids. But either way, Charizard got the buffs he deserves.
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I think we should wait for hitbox visualizations to jump to conclusions. I landed Ivy sweet spot dair on standing Hero from above the smashville platform. Its still a viable move. Character dropped maybe a couple places but not a full tier IMO.
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I don't think the nerfs were necessary and they could've straight up buffed Zard & still need to fix Ivy's tether recovery, but I think the character is okay.
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Tha side b nerf hurts me the most
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Thoughts on Ridley
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he thinks he's significantly better now, obviously. he didn't like how good they made up b, since he likes when characters are edgeguardable in general
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