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in ultimate getting out of disadvantage is legitimately a solid third of the game and she just skips it because fuck fundamentals. Even when you see pros hard read it they rarely hit down B and even then rarely with a hard punish. B r a i n d e a d
im sure the fastest character movement wise with the best defense and top tier offense with a frame 4 OOS kill move and god tier aerials and the best move in the game is not good because she doesn't play like she did in 4 and oh also she needs to learn to time her sh nair
Just to be clear: lots of chars in ultimate have BS, and a char can be top tier and stupid even if someone maining them hasnt won a major. and just cuz they win doesnt mean theyre stupid either. I don't want zss to be nerfed, just changed. Same goes for basically any top tier atm
Honestly I'm just tired of patch culture. Both the whining and the downplaying aspects.
(again, its okay to want the game to be different, but wanting to make a character just straight up worse cuz they win is awful in general)
God do I love playing zss, and Melee Marth 
If a character is hard to master, then it should be a great character. I wouldn’t whine about Peach’s old strong fair since Peach is such a hard character. ZSS is pretty damn hard to master.
why would you say zss has the best defense?
Down b out of anything, up b oos. Not sure I agree, but yeah that's his point
@Marss_NE this gonna be lit
Does it make up for her being mechanical?
Leffen spitting some facts Pog
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