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now that zss won is it now acceptable to whine about her? that down b is probably the best move in the game. Completely fucked up design wise. Having a get of jail free card from any form type of disadvantage and that grounds you into kill at 70? And spikes from a safe aerial?
in ultimate getting out of disadvantage is legitimately a solid third of the game and she just skips it because fuck fundamentals. Even when you see pros hard read it they rarely hit down B and even then rarely with a hard punish. B r a i n d e a d
im sure the fastest character movement wise with the best defense and top tier offense with a frame 4 OOS kill move and god tier aerials and the best move in the game is not good because she doesn't play like she did in 4 and oh also she needs to learn to time her sh nair
Just to be clear: lots of chars in ultimate have BS, and a char can be top tier and stupid even if someone maining them hasnt won a major. and just cuz they win doesnt mean theyre stupid either. I don't want zss to be nerfed, just changed. Same goes for basically any top tier atm
Honestly I'm just tired of patch culture. Both the whining and the downplaying aspects.
(again, its okay to want the game to be different, but wanting to make a character just straight up worse cuz they win is awful in general)
Sad to see that you can't even bother to read in your attempt to get a "gotcha" The whole point isn't that the move is too good, its that its degenerate. I've only stated this 1837891 times. Fox's shine is not degenerate in any way and neither is falcos, and I don't main him.
She literally dies if you read her flip kick and poke her off stage. Of course she has a good option to recover, otherwise she gets fucked. She arguably loses or goes even with swordies, projectile spam, and shorties. How are you complaining about a super transparent option.
lol yeah having a get out of jail free card in disadvantage is wack lmao no character should have that broken option good point big leff 
Does holding down b and moving your stick downwards to switch to shield art considered a down-b
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