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I hope the talks about a ledge grab limit don't just fade away this time. It's obvious that Hbox spaces out his planking abuse so that it's not as obviously broken to spectators (intentionally or not). I've tried bringing this up with TOs, hoping for more responses soon.
I don't want to be overdramatic but I personally do not want to play in tournaments where the optimal play is to get one gimp and then stall for 7 minutes or the opponent kills himself. Hopefully there will be majors for me to attend this August lol.
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My next planned melee tournament is Smashcon and Shine atm. If youre a melee TO for those please dm me or respond here or in the top 25 group (made a post there yday). If other people can help compile data or videos of ledge stall heavy matches thatd be awesome as well!
I agree, however the exact number of ledge grabs needs to be figured out with some really good data or else we’ll be screwing over a lot of other people such as Amsa
Yes, but also Yoshi ledge stalling is also 100% a problem in many matchups, just harder to do. We can start with a high number and see if the problem persists tbh.
its also boring as shit to watch. for example, compare ultimate grands to melee grands. we can’t leave this undiscussed & let melee die 
Just stop competing 4hed
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