You’re out of pocket for calling someone who’s reacting to 16 frame windows to have decent awareness 
Especially if you end up getting chain grabbed mixuped for doing good di. But regardless I stand by my statements
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Leffen's saying it's possible to react to/predict the grab and DI to avoid pivot tipper. 2saint is saying it's not possible to react to the throw to DI properly all the time regardless of what Marth does. You're both correct, you're just arguing different points.
Not at all. He first says the grab startup is "literally pointless", then says "You only have the time to guess cause of the 10+7 = 17 thing we were just talking about" right after. He is clearly wrong, not arguing different points at all.
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Yeah I think it’s pointless because I already know I’m gonna get grabbed idc about that I wanna know which way I should DI but I can’t know because the grab is to fast but since I have 17 frames I get to take a guess. If I did good DI I just won the RPS but Marth still gets a gun
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dude idk why the fuck i even bother. stop saying " i might be wrong on specifics " and "im going to do more research" when you just ignore everyone telling you where youre wrong.
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