Leffen i've played this character for 4 years and mainly this MU against my good Marth buddy i'm not gonna name every single followup possible that leads to death for the sake of this argument. Also getting Puff to above 100% isn't hard when Marths keep failing their pivots :P
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its not pointless, if it was 7 frames then you wouldnt even have time to guess, and since no DI gets combod/tippered youd have a WAY lower success rate. Please dawg, im trying not to be sassy but you clearly have not done your research on how this works. its very basic DI theory.
Especially if you end up getting chain grabbed mixuped for doing good di. But regardless I stand by my statements
you're basically saying - missing the tech on a dthrow from falcon 90% of the time isnt bad because its a mixup. its obviously not true
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Leffen's saying it's possible to react to/predict the grab and DI to avoid pivot tipper. 2saint is saying it's not possible to react to the throw to DI properly all the time regardless of what Marth does. You're both correct, you're just arguing different points.
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Not at all. He first says the grab startup is "literally pointless", then says "You only have the time to guess cause of the 10+7 = 17 thing we were just talking about" right after. He is clearly wrong, not arguing different points at all.
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