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please, this is only true at low % and just because there is A follow up doesnt mean they are equally good or that hbox to miss a 50/50 mixup every single time lmao

Leffen i've played this character for 4 years and mainly this MU against my good Marth buddy i'm not gonna name every single followup possible that leads to death for the sake of this argument. Also getting Puff to above 100% isn't hard when Marths keep failing their pivots :P

again, i know theres tons of different followups, but your odds to land a pivot tipper/the perfect combo followup is very often around 50% or lower if the opponent has a decent awareness (10-11 frames for just the dash grab, 7 for each throw, so reacting is possible)

You’re out of pocket for calling someone who’s reacting to 16 frame windows to have decent awareness Especially if you end up getting chain grabbed mixuped for doing good di. But regardless I stand by my statements

how is 10/11 + 7 = 16 LOL its not like puff has anything else to fear when shes crouching 90% of the time, AND you can hold down back or down forward while crouching...

10+7 = 17 - 1 = 16 cause you have to input the DI before you are actually thrown

Thanks for pulling this up because it shows that we’re both spreading misinformation cause it says that the puff player has 7 frames to react to getting thrown :^p