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Leffen i've played this character for 4 years and mainly this MU against my good Marth buddy i'm not gonna name every single followup possible that leads to death for the sake of this argument. Also getting Puff to above 100% isn't hard when Marths keep failing their pivots :P
again, i know theres tons of different followups, but your odds to land a pivot tipper/the perfect combo followup is very often around 50% or lower if the opponent has a decent awareness (10-11 frames for just the dash grab, 7 for each throw, so reacting is possible)
You’re out of pocket for calling someone who’s reacting to 16 frame windows to have decent awareness 
Especially if you end up getting chain grabbed mixuped for doing good di. But regardless I stand by my statements
how is 10/11 + 7 = 16 LOL its not like puff has anything else to fear when shes crouching 90% of the time, AND you can hold down back or down forward while crouching...
hbox doesn't even hit the DI 10 or 20% of the time, even when getting chaingrabbed (knows 100% that he will get grabbed again) its not a free escape but guess what, making it harder for the opponent is what every other character does in this game when getting combod.
(also i labbed pivot tippers in 2012 so plz lmao dont try to pull that on me)
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