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To commentators(i might be wrong on specifics): Whenever Hbox or any puff for that matter gets grabbed by Marth, let it be known that every throw is unreactable. And every throw (except up) has some type of true or psuedo combo regardless of DI. Good DI can still lead to death
please, this is only true at low % and just because there is A follow up doesnt mean they are equally good or that hbox to miss a 50/50 mixup every single time lmao
Leffen i've played this character for 4 years and mainly this MU against my good Marth buddy i'm not gonna name every single followup possible that leads to death for the sake of this argument. Also getting Puff to above 100% isn't hard when Marths keep failing their pivots :P
again, i know theres tons of different followups, but your odds to land a pivot tipper/the perfect combo followup is very often around 50% or lower if the opponent has a decent awareness (10-11 frames for just the dash grab, 7 for each throw, so reacting is possible)
Wavedash to fsmash only really works at 100%ish, and only consistently from fthrow. Pivots are hard af to get consistently.
It’s actually easier than upthrow upair imo. It’s hard with tourney pressure but every DI can be reacted to and covered at a large percent window after fthrow. Still very hard but if the Marth is consistent with it, the game becomes don’t get grabbed, not DI well
I cant take you seriously with that pic man lmfao
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