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10 hours of playtime joker impression: Solid midtier with a lot of counterpick potential. In many matchups arsene is not that scary and hard to get, and in others its the complete opposite. Cool combos will not happen in 90% of matchups, sadly he is mostly pokes + arsene.
Big flaws of his design for me are: You can just charge smashes vs counter and react. Gun is 90%air downgun and 10% annoying chip damage. Grapple is so terrible, basically useless against good di. Arsene Up B is terrible Side B is very underwhelming once they learn to play vs it
If you don't know the matchup and hes good vs ur char, its basically GG. Very stupid imo but thats what ult is designed for.
Still fun to use but abuses matchup knowledge too much for me to main. Secondary?
Idk i could see him rising on the tier list
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh okay I was worried for a sec!
thanks for sharing your toughts, I think its still a bit too early to be sure about his tier placement but I had the same concerns, are you gonna do a MU chart in the future?
I'm not even kidding, I think puff wins vs joker HARD.
I hard agree with this, fought this MU for a hour yesterday and I was super dead once off stage almost every time with both recovery option. Can’t really out range puff , lots of trades , mixing up high/low recovery can be covered easily by puff cause of how she follows him, etc
When people realize how good Arsene actually is I'm gonna be here laughing.
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